getting true layout and content seperation with (x)html and css is not possible. too much still depends on what order things occur in the html file. (at least, it's not possible while still maintaining compatibility with many browsers.)

and even some of the most modest graphic flourishes require stuffing things that aren't really content into your content.

i think you'd have to throw xslt into the mix to really get proper seperation all the way through. (or something like some php code pulling the real “content” out of a database, and feeding it into an html+css layout.)

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